1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:26,560 We get asked all the time, do you believe in Bigfoot? 2 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:34,920 Do you believe in UFOs or have a witchcraft? 3 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:46,360 We don't like using the term believe because to believe is an act of faith based on no evidence. 4 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:52,240 Science today may look at that and say that can't happen, that it's make believe. 5 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:58,960 These things did happen and a lot of times we can't explain it. 6 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:03,320 People have been skeptical of our work, of course. 7 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,040 We expect that. 8 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,800 All I can say to them is you weren't there. 9 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,480 You didn't see what I saw. 10 00:01:52,240 --> 00:02:21,240 There's something magical about the Navarra Reservation. 11 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:30,240 The Navarra Reservation is 27,000 square miles, that being about the size of West Virginia. 12 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,240 I probably stood in places where no other man has probably ever stood. 13 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:44,240 It's hard to take that in and imagine. 14 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:51,240 Seeing that vastness of just remote areas seems like it's infinite. 15 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:08,240 If you look at the Navarra Reservation, the Navarra Police provide the public safety aspect over our communities. 16 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:16,240 And the Navarra Rangers provide enforcement and protection over all of the natural resources of the Navarra Nation. 17 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:21,240 Kind of modeling from the National Park Service Rangers. 18 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:26,240 The Navarra Rangers were formed in 1957. 19 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:35,240 The job of a Navarra Ranger involves working in forest fire areas, doing evacuations. 20 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:44,240 We're doing search and rescue operations, you know, hanging on the end of a rope off a cliff in the middle of the night, looking for somebody that stuck down there. 21 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:52,240 When I look back at wanting to become a Navarra Ranger, it was really an exclusive club. 22 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:58,240 They had a presence about them, and I remember wanting to be a part of that. 23 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:07,240 I met Stan, I spent about 1989, and we started working together quite a bit. 24 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:14,240 We were co-swat team commanders for back country operations. 25 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:23,240 We got to know each other pretty well. We've adopted each other as brothers. 26 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:36,240 In 2000, our chief Ranger called us all in for a meeting because of a complaint that was lodged against the department for failing to investigate a Bigfoot case. 27 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:43,240 Right now in the United States, there's no mechanism to investigate these type of paranormal cases. 28 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:47,240 It's just not built into any of our systems, so they're ignored. 29 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:54,240 However, you have people out there who are absolutely terrified of whatever that happened to them. 30 00:04:54,240 --> 00:05:01,240 And our chief Ranger, he said, from now on, these cases are going to be investigated. 31 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:09,240 And then he turned to me and Stan, and you two guys are going to get the major cases. 32 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:15,240 I think there were those Navarra Rangers that would not go anywhere near these kind of cases. 33 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:22,240 Simply because within the Navajo culture, it's taboo to deal with it, approach it, talk about it. 34 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:28,240 The reason John and I were chosen is that we grew up in both worlds. 35 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:35,240 He was born in Oklahoma and raised there. I was born in Los Angeles and raised there. 36 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:47,240 We're our part Navajo, but we didn't hold to the traditional beliefs that a lot of the Navajos did about being around those type of things. 37 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:53,240 My immediate thought was, oh my goodness, we're going to be the X-Files. 38 00:05:53,240 --> 00:06:12,240 One of the first cases we worked was up along the San Juan River, where we had over 30 people report seeing a bigfoot, which is real unusual. 39 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:22,240 This is the place where the investigation started. 40 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,240 What actually happened this morning? 41 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:29,240 Coming down that highway right there, I thought a person was hitchhiking. 42 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:33,240 But as I got a little bit closer, it wasn't a person. 43 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:40,240 It was a tall, tall body with, it seemed like with hair all over because I didn't see like facial features or anything. 44 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:51,240 We would interview witnesses and we talked to some terrified people who didn't know what was happening. 45 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:59,240 They saw something completely out of the ordinary and they wanted answers. 46 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:05,240 One of my grandsons seeing it right there, I don't know, it was a big, really tall. 47 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,240 I don't want to come down here by myself. 48 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,240 Well, we've had other investigations that have been similar. 49 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:21,240 We've had reports of bigfoot stepping over corrals and taking sheep and stepping back over and walking off with them. 50 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:35,240 We've had sheep that were killed by literally having the wool just ripped off its back, just like you grabbed it around the neck and just took it and tore it off. 51 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:41,240 Holy Christ. No way. 52 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,240 Does it make that work there? 53 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,240 That's a big knuckle, man. 54 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,240 And interviewing people up and down the river. 55 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:56,240 We got a real feel that these occurrences had been going on for some time. 56 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:08,240 These bigfoot subscribe many times as being much taller than a man, 7 foot, 8 foot. 57 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,240 Very muscular. 58 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,240 Wide shoulders. 59 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:13,240 Built like a tank. 60 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,240 With canine teeth. 61 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,240 Smells like a wet dog. 62 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,240 It's a large, huge, hairy beast. 63 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:30,240 During that time, I had heard the name Brenda Harris. 64 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,240 She resided up along the San Juan River. 65 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:40,240 This is where we used to live. 66 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,240 Our mobile home was parked right here. 67 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:47,240 And this is where we had some encounters that had happened. 68 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:51,240 This was during the summertime. 69 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,240 I had all the bedroom windows open, living room windows open. 70 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,240 My husband had just left for work at 10.30. 71 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,240 He was working at Graveyard Chef. 72 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:08,240 About 30 minutes later, I heard something very heavy walking onto the porch. 73 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:18,240 And next thing I know, we started seeing the door knob turning. 74 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,240 I unlatched the log. 75 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,240 Once I clicked, I could hear that thing let go of the door knob. 76 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,240 I was really scared. 77 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:36,240 I swung the door open, and I just seen this thing standing in front of me. 78 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,240 I was like, wow. 79 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,240 That can't be what I think it is. 80 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,240 That's huge. 81 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:48,240 It was black, tall, and it was covered in hair. 82 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,240 And it wasn't very muscular. 83 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,240 It was like kind of scraggly looking. 84 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,240 I couldn't believe what I was seeing. 85 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:05,240 And it just darted off the porch, and it ran to the west. 86 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:12,240 About 15 to 20 minutes later, this thing came back again. 87 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:17,240 And it did the same thing, started turning the door knob. 88 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:21,240 As soon as I turned the bedroom light on, it took off. 89 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,240 This went on throughout the whole night. 90 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:33,240 And then finally, when daybreak broke, I said, OK, well, let's go walk around the house. 91 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:44,240 So about right in here was the back of my daughter's bedroom. 92 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,240 And this is where we found a footprint. 93 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:53,240 A little over 18 inches long and 4 inches wide. 94 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:59,240 This thing could have just tore the door open, but it didn't. 95 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,240 I was trying to get in the house. 96 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,240 It's still a mystery to me to this day. 97 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:15,240 Brenda lives in an area with somewhere near 30 people reporting the same kind of activity. 98 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:22,240 So we took a team of about six guys up along the San Juan River. 99 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,240 We came out with foot track evidence. 100 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,240 You got a 21-inch footprint with the toes showing. 101 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,240 And the thing's got a 5-foot stride. 102 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,240 If I was going to do a 5-foot stride, I'd be doing the splits. 103 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:47,240 The path went along and hit a barbed wire fence where it stepped over. 104 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:53,240 Caught in the fence in the barbed wire was a tuft of hair. 105 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:57,240 And we collected that as part of the investigation. 106 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,240 Several hairs put together. 107 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:09,240 These were real small, but they did have the tag ends on them, which is what they need for DNA examination. 108 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:17,240 The DNA analysis would have told what species or major group of species that it belonged to. 109 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,240 But the report just said unknown carnivore. 110 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,240 There's no identification for it in the DNA database. 111 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:31,240 And that DNA database has animals from all over the world. 112 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,240 There was no explanation for that. 113 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:45,240 When I started getting interested in this, I said, hey, let's get the camera and set it up. 114 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,240 So we set the camera up one night behind our home. 115 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:56,240 We did pick up, to me, what looks like a small juvenile bigfoot, which is probably about this high. 116 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,240 It's a little black figure. 117 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:07,240 I don't know if it crawled to where the pool was, but this thing, to me, it looks like it boils up from the ground. 118 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:11,240 It stands and it takes like a running sense and takes off to the west. 119 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,240 Also, I do have some vocalizations. 120 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:39,240 I started hearing different people within the area experiencing this bigfoot that's been coming around. 121 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,240 This is where the horse corrals stood. 122 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:50,240 We had the hog fence stacked, probably as high as that there. 123 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,240 And we had a solid roof up on top. 124 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:58,240 And over in that corner was where the panels were being torn off. 125 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,240 This was the corrugated tin. 126 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,240 We had cover on the horse corral. 127 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:07,240 We can't rip it, you know. 128 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,240 It's like torn, you know, like paper. 129 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,240 He even ripped all these ones. He broke all these. 130 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:15,240 This is some heavy steel. 131 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:25,240 Brenda came down. She put up cameras around the horse corral. 132 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:41,240 There's a suing wet that hits the side of the corral and you just see this tall figure standing there. 133 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,240 We didn't know what it was and that really scared us. 134 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:54,240 I want the people to be aware of what's out there and to be really careful because we don't know what these things are capable of doing. 135 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:03,240 During one of our investigations, we started tracking bigfoot for miles. 136 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:10,240 The footprint just stopped almost like it was just jerked into the sky. 137 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:18,240 A lot of people believe that bigfoot has some kind of spiritual powers or something where they can just disappear. 138 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:26,240 They'll tell me, yeah, I seen a bigfoot. I was watching it. I was kind of following it. All of a sudden it just disappeared. 139 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:43,240 When we started getting reports of bigfoot and the reports started increasing, there was a corresponding increase in UFO sightings. 140 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:59,240 UFO case. This is an area just off highway, rock 4. Apparently on this location where I'm standing, an unidentified object, light source, beamed light from this area. 141 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:11,240 We suspect that the UFO activity, that they are coming on a pretty regular basis. Most Navos will tell us it's just a normal thing. 142 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:19,240 This is tall and saw the light. It was radiating through something. 143 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:26,240 When you first seen it on the straight light, straight across, that was on this side of this hill. 144 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:34,240 It was really long. It was like, it was probably like that. Everything lasted maybe like 10 seconds. 145 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:48,240 I have another case. It's not far from here on Thursday. So whether or not they're correlated between the two, which I would think they're somehow related. 146 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:57,240 When you hear the word paranormal, one of the common phenomenon is what people refer to as an orb. 147 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:06,240 And orbs come in all different shapes and sizes and colors and behaviors. 148 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:14,240 They operate at speeds and angles that we couldn't even hope to duplicate. 149 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:27,240 We had a case involving a young woman who is working in Flagstaff. So she drives home back to the reservation every night. 150 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:37,240 I would like to stay anonymous because a lot of people tend to think you're crazy or to not believe in the experience you had. 151 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:53,240 I was born and raised on the Navajo Reservation. There had been instances where strange lights had been seen in the sky enough that it was known in the community. 152 00:17:54,240 --> 00:18:09,240 As I'm driving home from work, it's about 1.30 in the morning. There are no houses, no lights, no other vehicles on the road. It's open desert. 153 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:25,240 I noticed a red light off to my driver's side and it followed me for maybe a minute or two. It never emitted a sound of any kind. 154 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:35,240 I reached a point on the road where it made a sharp curve, so I had to take my eyes off this red ball. 155 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:44,240 I looked to my left and there is now this big ball and it was a bright white light. It was no longer red. 156 00:18:45,240 --> 00:19:04,240 I was afraid because it was very, very close to me. I didn't know what to do. I realized whatever this was, it was clearly intelligent enough to follow me. It was strange. 157 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:21,240 It stayed beside me for maybe a quarter mile before it shot forward. Less than 500 feet in front of me, it stopped instantaneously and then shot straight up in the sky. 158 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:37,240 Once it went up in the sky, it arched across the sky and it looked like a shooting star. It was so terrifying. I didn't want to see it again. 159 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:53,240 In the morning when I woke up, I had the worst migraine I've ever had. Up to that point, I had never experienced a migraine in my life. 160 00:19:53,240 --> 00:20:02,240 She reached out to me because I live in the same community and she knew I handled these type of cases. I could tell it shook her up quite a bit. 161 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:11,240 We went around her vehicle with a compass and we were looking for magnetic anomalies. 162 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:31,240 What we found is two areas that had intense magnetic attraction. One was just behind the driver's door on the panel and the other one was just in front of the passenger door. 163 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:39,240 If you took a string and tied it between both points, the string went right through the driver. 164 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:55,240 So we think that when this thing was flying alongside the vehicle, it must have been scanning or doing something to that vehicle that went through her and may have caused a physical result. 165 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:13,240 For those people that have those first-hand experiences with the supernatural or these paranormal phenomenon, it's something they're never going to forget. 166 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:28,240 We investigated many, many UFO sightings, but one of the more fascinating cases occurred with a non-navajo resident of the reservation living near Greasewood. 167 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:47,240 I spent probably about ten years of my life on the Navajo reservation, taught English as a second language. 168 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:52,240 So I've been living in lower Greasewood for about a year. 169 00:21:53,240 --> 00:22:04,240 Satan's Butte was in the distance. I saw it every single day. It's a flat, top mesa. It's pretty barren. There's no trees. 170 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:14,240 Every night I would have to go out and I would feed the horses, of course. 171 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:23,240 One night, just as the sun was going down just at dusk, just this odd light in the sky caught my attention. 172 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:35,240 I just couldn't figure out what it was. A couple nights later, I see this odd light in the sky hovering above Satan's Butte. 173 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,240 Very, very close to where it was hovering a couple nights before. 174 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:45,240 It came straight across here and it dipped down. 175 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,240 On this side? 176 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:56,240 On this side, yeah. It has red lights. I don't know if they go around the back, but it goes like this. You can see them kind of diminishing. 177 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:13,240 What I saw was a large ship and then coming out of that are these tendrils of light, but they look like teardrops as they drop to the earth. 178 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:26,240 The light was coming from inside of the ship and the tendrils, I don't know if those are little UFO ships, but they were glowing. 179 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:38,240 Fast forward a week. I see it again. I thought, I've got to get a picture of this because that would be so cool. 180 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:51,240 In the photographs that John and I were shown, there was definitely something there. 181 00:23:51,240 --> 00:24:00,240 There's enough evidence from what he gave us and the incidents that he had that are just outstanding from an investigator standpoint. 182 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:07,240 Any Navajo that I talked to about it, none of them were shocked. Everyone was like, oh yeah. 183 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:17,240 I didn't think aliens existed. I didn't think that there were UFOs. So I was very, very skeptical. 184 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:24,240 But the Navajo Nation taught me that there are things out there that we don't understand. 185 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:35,240 When it comes to the paranormal or supernatural, that element is already within the culture of the Navajo. 186 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:46,240 The Navajos themselves as a people have a lot of stories that go from generation to generation about paranormal activity. 187 00:24:47,240 --> 00:25:01,240 If you look at pictographs and petroglyphs on the walls and red rock canyons, you see these images that are thousands of years old. 188 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:12,240 And you see images of UFOs. Is this what is referred to as star people and extraterrestrial beings? 189 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:20,240 There's a lot of stuff that happens, but none of it is talked about because there's such a stigma. 190 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:33,240 With the older generations, they still have those traditional teachings of things that are taboo that you don't talk about. 191 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:45,240 Because the younger generations aren't learning those traditions as much, then they're more open to experiencing these kind of things and sharing the information. 192 00:25:46,240 --> 00:26:03,240 One of the most terrifying type of case that we've investigated involves the legendary Navajo skinwalker. 193 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:10,240 Most Navajos have heard the term skinwalker. 194 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:18,240 An entity that can shape shift or change form from a human form into that of an animal. 195 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:29,240 They can change shape into a coyote, into a wolf, into anything that they have the skin of. 196 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:37,240 I've had people tell me that they've seen them on the sides of the roads when they were in human form. 197 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:45,240 And they're painted white. Kind of like if you took a sponge and dipped it in white paint and just blotch it all over your body. 198 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:51,240 And the paint's cracking. And even the hair is long and painted. 199 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,240 They say that they can run as fast as a car can drive. 200 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:03,240 These things are dangerous and it's frightening. 201 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:13,240 I know that these skinwalkers exist because I've experienced it myself. 202 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:23,240 Prior to my law enforcement career, I had come to the Navajo Reservation. 203 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:31,240 And at the time I was living near for defiance, I borrowed my older sister's car and went to the movies one night. 204 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:43,240 And it was on this route when I had something that was running alongside my vehicle on the inside of this fence behind us. 205 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:50,240 It jumps the fence and it begins getting within three or four feet of the passenger side of my car. 206 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:56,240 And it was keeping up with me at highway speed. I'm at least 55 miles an hour. 207 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,240 The more that I accelerated, the more it was right there with me. 208 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:10,240 This thing had the body of like a greyhound, but it was from head to toe, solid white. 209 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:15,240 The back of it was at least coming up over the side of the door. 210 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:21,240 It had a mouthful of teeth. It had a head that was canine shaped and it had a long snout. 211 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:29,240 I locked eyes with it and its eyes were like it was self-illuminating. 212 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:34,240 A fiery orange, it was like it was looking straight through me. 213 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:44,240 I just floored it. I came sliding into the driveway, jumped out, ran inside and my father was still awake. 214 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:51,240 And I explained what I had seen and that's when he said that's a skin walker. 215 00:28:55,240 --> 00:29:03,240 To see it with your own eyes and to know that it wasn't make-believe, that it wasn't fantasy, it wasn't legend, 216 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:10,240 this was in its actual running on all fours form. 217 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:17,240 That was one of those moments where I realized that these things are very real. 218 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:23,240 My aunt sought help from a medicine man. 219 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:36,240 The medicine man said me seeing that thing running by the car wasn't some way tied to somebody out there trying to do our family harm. 220 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:44,240 The only reason that people do the shape-shifting thing is to harm others. 221 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,240 They want to do harm. They definitely want to do harm. 222 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:58,240 In my experience in 31 years out there, I can guarantee you that this is real. 223 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,240 And I can guarantee you that these things are deadly. 224 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,240 Throughout my career, I never felt that I needed protection. 225 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:18,240 But when we started doing these paranormal investigations, that suddenly changed. 226 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:27,240 This is an arrowhead. It's made out of black obsidian. 227 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:34,240 Obsidian in Navo culture is one of the things that can protect you. 228 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:43,240 If you perceive that there's a negative energy there or an energy that you're just not comfortable with, there's ways of dealing with that. 229 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:10,240 Negative energy can attach to us and accumulate. 230 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,240 I smudge by burning cedar or sage. 231 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:24,240 What that smoke is doing, it's removing any negative energy that might be present. 232 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:33,240 Over the years, this served to protect me and guide me in working with this kind of phenomena. 233 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:47,240 One of the most interesting and eye-opening cases that I've experienced in my career as a Navo Ranger 234 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:53,240 was a hunting case involving a government office building. 235 00:31:54,240 --> 00:32:00,240 That case had all kinds of different types of phenomena. 236 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:06,240 There was employees that were saying, oh my gosh, there's crazy activity in the building. 237 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:14,240 Things moving, things flying across the room, things exploding, voices. 238 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:23,240 This particular building from the 19, probably 30s, was at one time even used as a morgue. 239 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:33,240 There was a female worker there who was experiencing repeated calls into her desk phone over and over and over. 240 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,240 And there was nobody there when she would pick up the phone. 241 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:42,240 And the phone company wasn't able to determine where these calls were originating from. 242 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,240 This building had three different levels. 243 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:53,240 So on that particular investigation, I developed a team of four individuals to be able to witness these things. 244 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,240 My name is Tony Milford, Anthony Milford, Jr. 245 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,240 I'm of Navajo descent to the Navajo tribe. 246 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,240 Stanley approached me to help with the investigation. 247 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,240 I'm a Navajo resident. 248 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:11,240 I'm a Navajo tribe. Stanley approached me to help with the investigation. 249 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,240 I'm a little apprehensive because this is definitely a hunting. 250 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,240 It's definitely poltergeist because it's moving things around. 251 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:23,240 We went in on a weekend around nine o'clock at night. 252 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:32,240 I was downstairs. All of a sudden, over here on my left side, there was two distinct male voices. 253 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:39,240 I couldn't make out what they were saying to each other. 254 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:49,240 Immediately following that, we hear a coin fall on the floor. 255 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:54,240 And they asked, did you guys drop a coin there? Did you hear that too? 256 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,240 Sure enough, there's like a quarter. Where did that quarter come from? 257 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:08,240 For me, as an investigator, you always have a certain level of skepticism. 258 00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:14,240 I had everybody pull their pockets out just to make sure nobody had coins in their pockets. 259 00:34:14,240 --> 00:34:21,240 And almost immediately, as we went into that next room, a coin fell and we could see it. 260 00:34:24,240 --> 00:34:27,240 And here's when that happened. Another one. 261 00:34:28,240 --> 00:34:31,240 Did you hear that one? That one's on the other side over there. 262 00:34:32,240 --> 00:34:36,240 And so now we're like, okay, something's going on here. 263 00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:39,240 Why are these things doing this? Where are they coming from? 264 00:34:39,240 --> 00:34:44,240 Stanley got hit in the back by a coin and this thing was thrown. 265 00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:50,240 I mean, a force and it came from an area we were all facing and they're like, you know, where did this thing come from? 266 00:34:50,240 --> 00:35:05,240 Later on, there was coins just on the desk. We came back and the coins were stacked up on their own. 267 00:35:05,240 --> 00:35:27,240 These are the actual coins that were involved in the investigation into office space there. 268 00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:33,240 There was a total of 65 coins. There were all denominations of U.S. coins. 269 00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:36,240 They all landed heads up. 270 00:35:39,240 --> 00:35:49,240 I come to the conclusion that it was simply spirit that was letting me know that heads up, I'm here. 271 00:35:49,240 --> 00:36:01,240 Following the investigation the next night, one of the investigators, Dusty, was here. 272 00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:10,240 As we were sitting here working on the computers, a quarter fell behind me in the middle of the floor back here. 273 00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:13,240 Dusty got up with a digital camera. 274 00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:26,240 He began photographing around my residence. Just as he came through the threshold of my bedroom door, five coins fell over the top of his head and fell on the floor. 275 00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:35,240 We knew that the coin activity that was involved in the investigation had followed us here to my residence. 276 00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:41,240 Again and again, here in my home, they all landed heads up. 277 00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:54,240 Most people's, most cultures have this idea that we all have a life force or energy or soul within us. 278 00:36:54,240 --> 00:37:00,240 When we're deceased, that life force leaves us. When it leaves our body, it goes somewhere else. 279 00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:07,240 At times, we see the result of these energies making themselves known. 280 00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:23,240 The coins was really key in opening my mind to the fact that there's an underlying commonality among all of these paranormal events. 281 00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:38,240 One of the things that we found was that all of these different phenomenon can be connected through this idea of multi-universe or dimensional gates. 282 00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:48,240 So the coins obviously came from somewhere else. They manifested into our physical world and I witnessed that. 283 00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:57,240 They are different dimensions and within those different dimensions you have these beings like the Bigfoot. 284 00:37:57,240 --> 00:38:03,240 You have UFOs and from time to time they're crossing over entire physical world. 285 00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:09,240 And if you look at these Navajo creation stories, it kind of fits, you know. 286 00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:17,240 In Navajo culture, this theory actually extends back to the very beginning of time, what they call the emergence. 287 00:38:17,240 --> 00:38:22,240 In the emergence, the Navajo people came through several different worlds. 288 00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:28,240 They say that there's a hole in the sky and they climb up through this hole. 289 00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:36,240 That to me is very suspiciously an accurate account of some kind of dimensional gate that they came through into this world. 290 00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:42,240 What if those gates still exist? We don't see them. We don't know where they are. 291 00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:46,240 But it's very possible that they're still there. 292 00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:07,240 The paranormal investigations only constituted less than one percent of everything that we did as Navajo Rangers. 293 00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:16,240 But when they did happen, they were very significant. These cases are amazing. 294 00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:27,240 It's been ten years since I retired. I miss doing the investigations, doing that kind of work. 295 00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:44,240 I no longer work for the department, but I'm not going to stop helping people, especially those people that are living in fear. 296 00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:50,240 We're always looking for answers, no matter how crazy they might seem. 297 00:39:51,240 --> 00:40:00,240 There's so much more to the universe and to our world than what's right here in front of us. 298 00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:06,240 We've only begun to scratch the surface. 299 00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:23,240 We've only begun to scratch the surface. 300 00:40:23,240 --> 00:40:26,240 We've only begun to scratch the surface. 301 00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:29,240 We've only begun to scratch the surface. 302 00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:32,240 We've only begun to scratch the surface. 303 00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:35,240 We've only begun to scratch the surface. 304 00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:38,240 We've only begun to scratch the surface. 305 00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:41,240 We've only begun to scratch the surface. 306 00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:44,240 We've only begun to scratch the surface. 307 00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:47,240 We've only begun to scratch the surface. 308 00:40:47,240 --> 00:40:50,240 We've only begun to scratch the surface. 309 00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:53,240 We've only begun to scratch the surface. 310 00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:56,240 We've only begun to scratch the surface. 311 00:40:56,240 --> 00:40:59,240 We've only begun to scratch the surface. 312 00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:02,240 We've only begun to scratch the surface. 313 00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:05,240 We've only begun to scratch the surface. 314 00:41:05,240 --> 00:41:08,240 We've only begun to scratch the surface. 315 00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:11,240 We've only begun to scratch the surface. 316 00:41:11,240 --> 00:41:14,240 We've only begun to scratch the surface. 317 00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:17,240 We've only begun to scratch the surface. 318 00:41:17,240 --> 00:41:20,240 We've only begun to scratch the surface. 319 00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:23,240 We've only begun to scratch the surface. 320 00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:26,240 We've only begun to scratch the surface. 321 00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:29,240 We've only begun to scratch the surface. 322 00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:32,240 We've only begun to scratch the surface. 323 00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:35,240 We've only begun to scratch the surface. 324 00:41:35,240 --> 00:41:38,240 We've only begun to scratch the surface. 325 00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:41,240 We've only begun to scratch the surface. 326 00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:44,240 www.mooji.org 327 00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:15,240 www.mooji.org